Training - Edging for women
Training Techniques - Edging
I talk about edging quite a bit on here, and I’ve discussed it peripherally in the past, along with some notes on how to set up a good edging schedule. In this (hopefully) continuing series of posts I’m trying to discuss the techniques I use for slut/bimbo training - both online and in person. In my opinion - and I’ve seen nothing in the past few years of applying these techniques and evolving the methods to dispute this - edging is the single most effective tool available for turning willing female subjects into fuck addicted whores. I know that a lot of doms and trainers use edging now, but I’ve long concluded that it needs to be done in a specific way to actually make it work.
What follows is a collection of my own thoughts and observations after using this technique on a number of subjects over the past 2 years. I should note right now that I am neither a behavioural psychologist, a neurophysiologist nor experienced in any kind of true brainwashing. What I saw here is purely based on my own ideas, and what I’ve seen happen when I implement them. Do me a favour and don’t message me to tell me how stupid my conclusions are? This works - very, VERY well - that’s all I really care about.
Where did edging come from?
I’m going to sound really arrogant here.
When I started writing my blog over 2 years ago (that was the original #allwomenshouldbelikethis) I was a staunch believer that orgasm denial was a dead end when it came to slut training women. I figured that it was a better idea to literally drown the body in orgasms to the point where continuing the flow of them became an overwhelming need… I did not have much luck with this as a training method.
At the same time I was aware (although not really thinking about) the practice of ‘gooning’ among the male submissive community. For those of you who don’t know about this, ‘gooning’ is a form of masturbation torture, usually applied by dommes to male subs where they masturbate close to cumming and hang there, usually to vast quantities of porn. The idea is to reduce them to a constantly horny, masturbating mess, making them pathetic and needy and if they are allowed to cum it is usually as a ruined orgasm.
Now, I hadn’t had much contact with that aspect of the community (being painfully straight and not even a little subby myself), but one day a picture and caption concerning gooning went across my dash on tumblr. Reading it randomly I got to thinking - if gooning works well with men, who are by physical necessity limited in what they can do because of things like blood-flow, then shouldn’t it work even more effectively on women, who have far fewer limitations? I certainly didn’t want to cut off orgasms altogether, BUT limiting them to being used to please others seemed like a good idea. I suggested this in a post on that (now long deleted) blog, and then tried it out with a few girls I talked to online.
Now, I’m not saying I *invented* the idea. Male subs were doing it long before that and i’m sure that out there some doms were using it on subjects they trained as well. However, I do think I was the first to suggest it publically within the tumblr community. It has since spread quite dramatically. In the past few weeks I’ve been told about it’s discussion on both Fetlife forums and even on Facebook. I think it’s popularity has spread from tumblr in fact…
The indications were very positive from a very early point. Changes occurred remarkably quickly and seemed to be very deep seated in a way.
What effects can it have?
You can break down the effects of edging into 2 broad categories - the physical and the mental.
The physical ones are much easier to measure (for obvious reasons). Pretty much every subject gets progressively wetter and wetter on a constant basis. After a number of weeks I’ve seen repeated reports of girls getting so wet that they wake up in a puddle of their own cum, or discover it oozing out of them during the day, to the point of it running - copiously in some cases - down their legs. Edging also encourages almost continual flexing of the muscles in the area which will tend to make subjects much tighter and able to exert more muscle control. The constant stimulation also means that their vagina and especially their clit become exceptionally sensitive. The sensitivity seems to spread to cover all the erogenous zones as well - lips, neck, breasts, back, ass and inner thighs all seem to become significantly more sensitive and arousing. In a few cases I’ve had subjects report that areas that previously brought no pleasure at all become sensitive to the point of promoting near-orgasms. Orgasms become much easier to obtain under the right circumstances as well. Virtually all subjects report that they can cum on command, or with a minimal amount of penetration or stimulation from others. Orgasms become much more intense as well - I’ve had many reports of cumming so hard that the subject passes out. In some cases subjects start to idly edge even in public as it become habitual.
The mental changes are harder to quantify. Universally there is a progressive drift to having all idle or default thoughts center around fucking, cock and cum. This leads to an apparent difficulty concentrating on other things. Subjects appear distracted in many instances, drifting easily back to sexual thoughts and away from mundane things. This focus on fucking means that they also tend to become progressively less inhibited over time - more easily discussing sexual topics openly, flirting more heavily and aggressively, dressing to please and so on. Markedly more sexual dreams seem to also occur frequently, especially concerning fetishes and interests which were more borderline or extreme to the subject in the past - many start having **** fantasies on a protracted basis, for example. Subjects generally become more pliant and obedient as well, although this usually takes a few weeks to set it, after the initial period of adjustment has occurred. A noticeable dependence on the trainer also occurs in most cases. Most importantly, most subjects report a feeling of emptiness that’s quite blissful - a lack of conscious thought and ‘zoning out’ that is very bimbo-like.
Over an extended period, the preoccupation with all things sexual leads to full blown sex addiction and apparent nymphomania, but it seems to NOT include the negative aspects normally associated with addiction. All subjects seem happy, content and excited to be useful.
Why does it work?
A lot of this is speculative of course, but I believe that edging works in part because of the enforced habit of it. Subjects quickly become used to almost constantly giving themselves stimulation to the point where the body comes to expect it. The habit of touching themselves leads to a psychological expectation of constant arousal, and so even when it’s taken away they will tend to stay very *VERY* tured on.
The other factor I think is actually physical. In doing this, subjects are constantly flooding their bodies with all the fun pleasure responses and hormones that are produced and that level is kept pretty intense at all times.I suspect that this leads to the body starting to acquire a new baseline for the standard level of hormones and arousal that it experiences. You’re basically raising the bar to a higher level so that your body starts to automatically stay that horny and turned on ALL the time. Now, it is still an artificial level, so removing the stimulus will allow it to return to it’s natural point over time. However, the habitual component makes this very difficult to do in practice because it just becomes too easy to slide your hand between your legs and make everything feel better :)
Misconceptions
I’ve addressed this issue before, but in my experience there are 2 major misconceptions that center around edging.
Firstly, edging (by itself) will NOT make you dumb. It will make you concentrate on fucking, cock and cum, but it won’t actually reduce your intelligence. The brain still works just fine, it’s just working on a very restricted number of paths most of the time. You end up appearing distracted and a little ditzy because it takes some effort to make you mind work in other directions. It’s still capable of doing it, but the natural way it wants to go will be sexual. Think of it as wearing a groove in your brain and your thoughts are like water. The more deeply you ingrain the groove in your mind, the more difficult it is to get the water to flow outside of that channel. You can still do it, but you have to spend the energy required to lift the flow of your thoughts out of the natural channel you’ve created.
Secondly, cumming by itself does not make edging pointless. Think of edging as building a dam in front of the natural accumulation of sexul tension. Normally you cum to release this. By damming it up though, it builds and builds and builds till there is a massive pressure behind the dam. When you cum you don’t remove the dam, instead you allow a small amount of water to be released - which it will naturally do at much higher pressure than before. Now, if you came a LOT then eventually all the pressure would be released, but if you’re edging consistently around the times you manage to cum (by being fucked for example) then the pressure is always replaced. You’d need to stop edging and cum repeatedly to remove the effects.
Doing it in practice - Rules, Schedule and Flexibility
Ok, so after reading all this you may now think ‘Edging is for me!’, so how do we do this in practice?
1) Realise that doing this and getting results takes a real investment of time and effort. You can’t just edge a few times a day and expect results. On average I have subjects edge 12-15 times a day.
2) This will be a lot easier if you have reasonable privacy at home (or live with people who won’t care/will get turned on). It’s also easier if your job allows you to be able to take short breaks on a frequent basis.
3) You need something that allows you to keep a regular schedule. An alarm in your cellphone is a very good tool.
4) Do NOT penetrate yourself when you edge. It should be almost entirely from clitoral stimulation. Part of what you’re doing is trying to make that hole as tight, wet and enjoyable as possible. Don’t go shoving things in there for your own pleasure. Toys are fine, so long as they are used outside. The only things that should be going in your hole from now on are other peoples fingers, tongues and cocks. If someone wants to watch you fuck yourself, that’s fine too - but it can’t be because you want it.
Yes, anal penetration is fine.
Clear on that? Then here’s the standard schedule I use -
When you wake up in the morning, the first thing you do is edge (Yes, you can pee first). Edge for 30 minutes before you get up. Then set an alarm for 1 hour later.
Edge for 5 minutes when the alarm goes off, then reset it.
Rinse and repeat throughout the day.
Edge for 30 minutes before you go to sleep at night. Ideally you should fall asleep edging.
If you happen to wake up during the night, make sure you edge yourself back to sleep.
If work or other restrictions keep you from edging every hour during the day then aim for every 2 hours instead. Just don’t skip the whole day. Get used to edging in the bathroom or other quiet places. Do it in your car during the lunch break.
It’s very important to stay hydrated and try not to get carried away. It can be very easy to just edge for hours and hours during the evening, but you *will* make yourself uncomfortably raw. Remember that this is a progressive thing - you’ll need to do this for a week or so to see real effects, and the biggest ones don’t really hit till after a few months in most cases. This is a marathon, NOT a sprint!
Honesty & Moral Implications
A lot of edging is done without the direct supervision of a dom, either online or when he’s not there. In a sense it’s prep work, or homework. The point is that you need to be honest about it. No cheating - if you cheat you’re only cheating yourself, and if you’re uninterested in actually doing it honestly, then why are you bothering at all? Please, the supervision of this aspect of this takes time and attention when done properly - don’t waste my time, or that of any other dom who cares enough to do it!
Similarly, don’t allow yourself to be pressured into doing more, or going deeper into things, than you feel comfortable. Edging can have a profound effect on how you act and think. Be aware of the impact this will have on your day to day life. Careers that require a lot of concentration and thought are not really compatible. Equally, if you are training someone this way, make sure you pay attention to what’s going on in their whole lives.
Otherwise you can end up ruining someone’s entire life in ways they didn’t want.
Addendum (June 8th 2015) - After some work and experience I have discovered that penetration is not something you have to avoid completely. The subject should be avoiding any kind of penetration that is aggressive or stretching, BUT it can have some very beneficial effects when used in conjunction with consistent edging. I suggest that the subject only uses a slim dildo or a hair-brush handle to fuck themselves. The motion should be shallow and quite quick (about 2 stokes per second). Try not to push it past the entrance of your hole too much - it should just pop into the space inside and no more. If possible, try and use a sawing motion - push in with the tip aimed up at your navel, then point it down towards your back, then pull out.
The best effect to this is that it really promotes your cunt being super wet and sticky at all times, as well as making your cum much creamier and sweeter in the process. As I always tell girls, don’t waste the cum - it makes excellent lip-gloss (and helps you focus properly because everything tastes like cum), then spread on your nipples it tends to make them very sensitive as well. Any that is left is best just fed into your mouth.
…
So, that’s a full discussion on edging. If you try it, or apply these ideas to someone else then remember to have fun! That’s point after all - if it doesn’t make you happy, then what’s the point? I have to wholeheartedly recommend it though. If you want to become an empty-headed, cock-obsessed and dripping wet piece of fuckmeat then there is no better way that I can come up
I talk about edging quite a bit on here, and I’ve discussed it peripherally in the past, along with some notes on how to set up a good edging schedule. In this (hopefully) continuing series of posts I’m trying to discuss the techniques I use for slut/bimbo training - both online and in person. In my opinion - and I’ve seen nothing in the past few years of applying these techniques and evolving the methods to dispute this - edging is the single most effective tool available for turning willing female subjects into fuck addicted whores. I know that a lot of doms and trainers use edging now, but I’ve long concluded that it needs to be done in a specific way to actually make it work.
What follows is a collection of my own thoughts and observations after using this technique on a number of subjects over the past 2 years. I should note right now that I am neither a behavioural psychologist, a neurophysiologist nor experienced in any kind of true brainwashing. What I saw here is purely based on my own ideas, and what I’ve seen happen when I implement them. Do me a favour and don’t message me to tell me how stupid my conclusions are? This works - very, VERY well - that’s all I really care about.
Where did edging come from?
I’m going to sound really arrogant here.
When I started writing my blog over 2 years ago (that was the original #allwomenshouldbelikethis) I was a staunch believer that orgasm denial was a dead end when it came to slut training women. I figured that it was a better idea to literally drown the body in orgasms to the point where continuing the flow of them became an overwhelming need… I did not have much luck with this as a training method.
At the same time I was aware (although not really thinking about) the practice of ‘gooning’ among the male submissive community. For those of you who don’t know about this, ‘gooning’ is a form of masturbation torture, usually applied by dommes to male subs where they masturbate close to cumming and hang there, usually to vast quantities of porn. The idea is to reduce them to a constantly horny, masturbating mess, making them pathetic and needy and if they are allowed to cum it is usually as a ruined orgasm.
Now, I hadn’t had much contact with that aspect of the community (being painfully straight and not even a little subby myself), but one day a picture and caption concerning gooning went across my dash on tumblr. Reading it randomly I got to thinking - if gooning works well with men, who are by physical necessity limited in what they can do because of things like blood-flow, then shouldn’t it work even more effectively on women, who have far fewer limitations? I certainly didn’t want to cut off orgasms altogether, BUT limiting them to being used to please others seemed like a good idea. I suggested this in a post on that (now long deleted) blog, and then tried it out with a few girls I talked to online.
Now, I’m not saying I *invented* the idea. Male subs were doing it long before that and i’m sure that out there some doms were using it on subjects they trained as well. However, I do think I was the first to suggest it publically within the tumblr community. It has since spread quite dramatically. In the past few weeks I’ve been told about it’s discussion on both Fetlife forums and even on Facebook. I think it’s popularity has spread from tumblr in fact…
The indications were very positive from a very early point. Changes occurred remarkably quickly and seemed to be very deep seated in a way.
What effects can it have?
You can break down the effects of edging into 2 broad categories - the physical and the mental.
The physical ones are much easier to measure (for obvious reasons). Pretty much every subject gets progressively wetter and wetter on a constant basis. After a number of weeks I’ve seen repeated reports of girls getting so wet that they wake up in a puddle of their own cum, or discover it oozing out of them during the day, to the point of it running - copiously in some cases - down their legs. Edging also encourages almost continual flexing of the muscles in the area which will tend to make subjects much tighter and able to exert more muscle control. The constant stimulation also means that their vagina and especially their clit become exceptionally sensitive. The sensitivity seems to spread to cover all the erogenous zones as well - lips, neck, breasts, back, ass and inner thighs all seem to become significantly more sensitive and arousing. In a few cases I’ve had subjects report that areas that previously brought no pleasure at all become sensitive to the point of promoting near-orgasms. Orgasms become much easier to obtain under the right circumstances as well. Virtually all subjects report that they can cum on command, or with a minimal amount of penetration or stimulation from others. Orgasms become much more intense as well - I’ve had many reports of cumming so hard that the subject passes out. In some cases subjects start to idly edge even in public as it become habitual.
The mental changes are harder to quantify. Universally there is a progressive drift to having all idle or default thoughts center around fucking, cock and cum. This leads to an apparent difficulty concentrating on other things. Subjects appear distracted in many instances, drifting easily back to sexual thoughts and away from mundane things. This focus on fucking means that they also tend to become progressively less inhibited over time - more easily discussing sexual topics openly, flirting more heavily and aggressively, dressing to please and so on. Markedly more sexual dreams seem to also occur frequently, especially concerning fetishes and interests which were more borderline or extreme to the subject in the past - many start having **** fantasies on a protracted basis, for example. Subjects generally become more pliant and obedient as well, although this usually takes a few weeks to set it, after the initial period of adjustment has occurred. A noticeable dependence on the trainer also occurs in most cases. Most importantly, most subjects report a feeling of emptiness that’s quite blissful - a lack of conscious thought and ‘zoning out’ that is very bimbo-like.
Over an extended period, the preoccupation with all things sexual leads to full blown sex addiction and apparent nymphomania, but it seems to NOT include the negative aspects normally associated with addiction. All subjects seem happy, content and excited to be useful.
Why does it work?
A lot of this is speculative of course, but I believe that edging works in part because of the enforced habit of it. Subjects quickly become used to almost constantly giving themselves stimulation to the point where the body comes to expect it. The habit of touching themselves leads to a psychological expectation of constant arousal, and so even when it’s taken away they will tend to stay very *VERY* tured on.
The other factor I think is actually physical. In doing this, subjects are constantly flooding their bodies with all the fun pleasure responses and hormones that are produced and that level is kept pretty intense at all times.I suspect that this leads to the body starting to acquire a new baseline for the standard level of hormones and arousal that it experiences. You’re basically raising the bar to a higher level so that your body starts to automatically stay that horny and turned on ALL the time. Now, it is still an artificial level, so removing the stimulus will allow it to return to it’s natural point over time. However, the habitual component makes this very difficult to do in practice because it just becomes too easy to slide your hand between your legs and make everything feel better :)
Misconceptions
I’ve addressed this issue before, but in my experience there are 2 major misconceptions that center around edging.
Firstly, edging (by itself) will NOT make you dumb. It will make you concentrate on fucking, cock and cum, but it won’t actually reduce your intelligence. The brain still works just fine, it’s just working on a very restricted number of paths most of the time. You end up appearing distracted and a little ditzy because it takes some effort to make you mind work in other directions. It’s still capable of doing it, but the natural way it wants to go will be sexual. Think of it as wearing a groove in your brain and your thoughts are like water. The more deeply you ingrain the groove in your mind, the more difficult it is to get the water to flow outside of that channel. You can still do it, but you have to spend the energy required to lift the flow of your thoughts out of the natural channel you’ve created.
Secondly, cumming by itself does not make edging pointless. Think of edging as building a dam in front of the natural accumulation of sexul tension. Normally you cum to release this. By damming it up though, it builds and builds and builds till there is a massive pressure behind the dam. When you cum you don’t remove the dam, instead you allow a small amount of water to be released - which it will naturally do at much higher pressure than before. Now, if you came a LOT then eventually all the pressure would be released, but if you’re edging consistently around the times you manage to cum (by being fucked for example) then the pressure is always replaced. You’d need to stop edging and cum repeatedly to remove the effects.
Doing it in practice - Rules, Schedule and Flexibility
Ok, so after reading all this you may now think ‘Edging is for me!’, so how do we do this in practice?
1) Realise that doing this and getting results takes a real investment of time and effort. You can’t just edge a few times a day and expect results. On average I have subjects edge 12-15 times a day.
2) This will be a lot easier if you have reasonable privacy at home (or live with people who won’t care/will get turned on). It’s also easier if your job allows you to be able to take short breaks on a frequent basis.
3) You need something that allows you to keep a regular schedule. An alarm in your cellphone is a very good tool.
4) Do NOT penetrate yourself when you edge. It should be almost entirely from clitoral stimulation. Part of what you’re doing is trying to make that hole as tight, wet and enjoyable as possible. Don’t go shoving things in there for your own pleasure. Toys are fine, so long as they are used outside. The only things that should be going in your hole from now on are other peoples fingers, tongues and cocks. If someone wants to watch you fuck yourself, that’s fine too - but it can’t be because you want it.
Yes, anal penetration is fine.
Clear on that? Then here’s the standard schedule I use -
When you wake up in the morning, the first thing you do is edge (Yes, you can pee first). Edge for 30 minutes before you get up. Then set an alarm for 1 hour later.
Edge for 5 minutes when the alarm goes off, then reset it.
Rinse and repeat throughout the day.
Edge for 30 minutes before you go to sleep at night. Ideally you should fall asleep edging.
If you happen to wake up during the night, make sure you edge yourself back to sleep.
If work or other restrictions keep you from edging every hour during the day then aim for every 2 hours instead. Just don’t skip the whole day. Get used to edging in the bathroom or other quiet places. Do it in your car during the lunch break.
It’s very important to stay hydrated and try not to get carried away. It can be very easy to just edge for hours and hours during the evening, but you *will* make yourself uncomfortably raw. Remember that this is a progressive thing - you’ll need to do this for a week or so to see real effects, and the biggest ones don’t really hit till after a few months in most cases. This is a marathon, NOT a sprint!
Honesty & Moral Implications
A lot of edging is done without the direct supervision of a dom, either online or when he’s not there. In a sense it’s prep work, or homework. The point is that you need to be honest about it. No cheating - if you cheat you’re only cheating yourself, and if you’re uninterested in actually doing it honestly, then why are you bothering at all? Please, the supervision of this aspect of this takes time and attention when done properly - don’t waste my time, or that of any other dom who cares enough to do it!
Similarly, don’t allow yourself to be pressured into doing more, or going deeper into things, than you feel comfortable. Edging can have a profound effect on how you act and think. Be aware of the impact this will have on your day to day life. Careers that require a lot of concentration and thought are not really compatible. Equally, if you are training someone this way, make sure you pay attention to what’s going on in their whole lives.
Otherwise you can end up ruining someone’s entire life in ways they didn’t want.
Addendum (June 8th 2015) - After some work and experience I have discovered that penetration is not something you have to avoid completely. The subject should be avoiding any kind of penetration that is aggressive or stretching, BUT it can have some very beneficial effects when used in conjunction with consistent edging. I suggest that the subject only uses a slim dildo or a hair-brush handle to fuck themselves. The motion should be shallow and quite quick (about 2 stokes per second). Try not to push it past the entrance of your hole too much - it should just pop into the space inside and no more. If possible, try and use a sawing motion - push in with the tip aimed up at your navel, then point it down towards your back, then pull out.
The best effect to this is that it really promotes your cunt being super wet and sticky at all times, as well as making your cum much creamier and sweeter in the process. As I always tell girls, don’t waste the cum - it makes excellent lip-gloss (and helps you focus properly because everything tastes like cum), then spread on your nipples it tends to make them very sensitive as well. Any that is left is best just fed into your mouth.
…
So, that’s a full discussion on edging. If you try it, or apply these ideas to someone else then remember to have fun! That’s point after all - if it doesn’t make you happy, then what’s the point? I have to wholeheartedly recommend it though. If you want to become an empty-headed, cock-obsessed and dripping wet piece of fuckmeat then there is no better way that I can come up
9 years ago
She eventually became accustomed to that type of feeling and would do it even when she was eventually living on her own and was so addicted to the rush, her body kept itself in a state of hyperarounsal.
The downside (for me as the boyfriend) was that it made her very submissive and she was very easy for guys to manipulate. She worked a retail job and admitted to me one night that she stayed wet almost all day at work as men would come and go and she also admitted that she couldn't help it and felt like it became a problem eventually.
From my perspective it was nice because she was always horny and almost always wet from the beginning. In fact, she would get so wet during foreplay that it would run down her thigh she would be so wet and I'd never experienced that with a woman. She was also very into porn, which in my experience was rare for women and when she was in that state after she hadn't had an orgasm for a week, she was very willing to do pretty much anything without much hesitation.
She'd essentially conditioned herself into a super submissive woman, always horny and very susceptible to things most women wouldn't be. I caught her many times during the years we were together rubbing her crotch up against things subconsciously and subtly just because her body needed that stimulation on a regular basis.
Eventually she cheated on me...not just once or with one guy but several times and her defense was that she really didn't feel like she could say no. Understanding what I did about her (I'd known about her hyperarousal for years before those incidents) I couldn't even really get angry but it did break us up. As much of a turn on as it was and as fulfilling as it was to date a submissive woman who was always horny, it was too much of a liability for me and pride wouldn't let me stay in a situation where her body at least was always looking for pleasure and relief.
That to say I believe the theory is very true and I've seen it firsthand by a woman who conditioned herself to be that way. It's not without issues, I think it created guilt and regret with her but while she was in that state of hyperarousal, she could think of very little besides sex.